"Banning high capacity magazines or banning military assault type rifles, isn't going to solve the problem," says gun instructor, Norman Hood.
That was the consensus at Kodiak Firing Range and Training Facility in South Bend.
"It's not going to keep guns out of criminal hands. It's not going to keep the crazy person from going and causing harm," says Eugene Clingenpeel.
"They're going to make it difficult for me to get a weapon, not for people who want to break the law," says John Allen.
And they think President Obama's plan to ban assault weapons and restrict high capacity magazines shows a lack of understanding.
Manager William Smith showed me some of the weapons at the heart of the debate, including what has been dubbed an "assault rifle."
"Assault rifle means nothing, there is no such thing as an assault rifle.You have assault weapons, such as a baseball bat, a knife, a foot, a fist, anything used in an assault is an assault weapon," says Smith.
He says the thing that scares people away from the military style weapons is all in the cosmetics. "What they're mainly concerned about and they seem to be addressing are scary guns."
He says many guns can do the same damage, but only the intimidating ones are being questioned.
As for a 10-round limit on magazines? "It takes me less than a second to switch magazines in my pistol."
He says whether there's 10 or 16 rounds in his pistol, he can switch them out and carry as many magazines as he wants.
The gun owners I talked with say - just like the President - they want to keep guns out of the hands of the wrong people.
"We're all looking for the same thing. We're all looking to protect innocent people," says Hood.
They just don't think the President's proposals will solve the problem.
"Bad guys are going to get guns, that's all there is to it," says Hood.